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October 18, 2010

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Gary Ashwill

James, yes, I had considered this possibility. He was in fact "C. Thomas" in box scores, and it seems to match, since the Ohio Wesleyan guy was supposed to have played for the '05 Giants (and Sol White was from Ohio and had many connections there). In the end I hesitated to make this ID because it didn't seem to match Charles Thomas's bio--he graduated from dental school in 1908 and went west to St Louis, whereas the Philly Giants' C. Thomas was a regular, largely on the east coast, in 1910 and 1911. Also I'm not *entirely* persuaded that the photos show the same person--though there's a lot of similarity. Thanks for reminding me about this--I'll put up a post soon so people can compare the images.

james tate

Hi Gentleman after looking over this photo - and the 2nd one photo for comparison I think I have found a key figure in Branch Rickey's push to integrate baseball. Most know his story about a black player on the Ohio Wesleyan U team. The guys name was Charles Thomas he played for the 1905 Phila Giants a year after the accident before going up to medical school where he became a dentist. In the 2nd photo is a man sitting next to the owner Schlicter who is indentified as Thomas and looks like Thomas did at the time. I did not know if you guys were aware of this.

Gary Ashwill

Bill, fantastic! I've been doing a lot of research in the NY Press but had not seen this--thanks!

Bill Mullins

The mystery photo was printed http://fultonhistory.com/Newspaper%2018/New%20York%20NY%20Press/New%20York%20NY%20Press%201909/New%20York%20NY%20Press%201909%20-%203427.pdf here. Looks like you did a pretty good job of id'ing everyone.

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